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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a great book, by the way.

Jones really didn't have anything more to prove in golf.  He knew he wasn't cut out to tour as a professional.

Simlarly, once Nicklaus got past Jones and Hagen,  there was no obvious goals for him to attain in golf.  

Tiger has a goal that should keep him focused for at least the next few years.  That might work to his psychological advantage.

Phil:  I don't really think Tiger would hang up his Foot Joys at 19 majors.  If possible, he'll want to get 20 just because it would stand as such a great number.  

That said, if he gets 19, he's probably going to be regarded by MOST people, inside golf and out, as the greatest ever.   I can't see people setting the bar for Tiger at some arbitrary number of majors beyond 19.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great book, by the way.</p>
<p>Jones really didn&#8217;t have anything more to prove in golf.  He knew he wasn&#8217;t cut out to tour as a professional.</p>
<p>Simlarly, once Nicklaus got past Jones and Hagen,  there was no obvious goals for him to attain in golf.  </p>
<p>Tiger has a goal that should keep him focused for at least the next few years.  That might work to his psychological advantage.</p>
<p>Phil:  I don&#8217;t really think Tiger would hang up his Foot Joys at 19 majors.  If possible, he&#8217;ll want to get 20 just because it would stand as such a great number.  </p>
<p>That said, if he gets 19, he&#8217;s probably going to be regarded by MOST people, inside golf and out, as the greatest ever.   I can&#8217;t see people setting the bar for Tiger at some arbitrary number of majors beyond 19.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm about 3/4 through Mark Frost's "Grand Slam" about Bobby Jones. And the portrait he paints is one of a very reluctant hero. The way Frost tells the story, by 1928 or 1929, Bob Jones was looking for an "excuse" to get out of competitive golf. It was wearing him down and keeping him away from his young family. At the same time, he didn't want to disappoint all the people who were (emotionally) invested in him. So he set a goal of winning all four majors (which were different then, of course) in 1930 and then retiring from competitive play. He worked harder than ever, pulled it off, then followed through, retiring from the game at the top with his head held high. Unbelievable. He may still get my vote for "Best Ever."

At some point it's going to start to get to Tiger, no? Seems inevitable. Every man faces the "now what?" question sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about 3/4 through Mark Frost&#8217;s &#8220;Grand Slam&#8221; about Bobby Jones. And the portrait he paints is one of a very reluctant hero. The way Frost tells the story, by 1928 or 1929, Bob Jones was looking for an &#8220;excuse&#8221; to get out of competitive golf. It was wearing him down and keeping him away from his young family. At the same time, he didn&#8217;t want to disappoint all the people who were (emotionally) invested in him. So he set a goal of winning all four majors (which were different then, of course) in 1930 and then retiring from competitive play. He worked harder than ever, pulled it off, then followed through, retiring from the game at the top with his head held high. Unbelievable. He may still get my vote for &#8220;Best Ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>At some point it&#8217;s going to start to get to Tiger, no? Seems inevitable. Every man faces the &#8220;now what?&#8221; question sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD
Thanks. Your point about the "then what" is well taken. He was more than happy to stay at home with his family, and a part of him might be looking forward to the day when he can retire from competition. He's said that when he can't win, he's done. So maybe, as you say, he wants to get to 19 and be done with it. The problem is that 19 majors doesn't automatically make him the Best Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD<br />
Thanks. Your point about the &#8220;then what&#8221; is well taken. He was more than happy to stay at home with his family, and a part of him might be looking forward to the day when he can retire from competition. He&#8217;s said that when he can&#8217;t win, he&#8217;s done. So maybe, as you say, he wants to get to 19 and be done with it. The problem is that 19 majors doesn&#8217;t automatically make him the Best Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Phil.  I've been critical of some of your anti-Tiger posts, but this strikes me as an admirably fair treatment of the subject. 

This is just speculation, of course, but I would guess Tiger was upset at the outcome because (a) he was forced to sit out the better part of a year, nursing his knee, waiting for Masters week to arrive; and (b) he drove back down Magnolia Lane knowing he COULD have won the damn thing.  I don't think there's any great mystery to why he was so mad.  

I'm a bit skeptical of the claims that Tiger's swing (or his knee) is too messed up for him to continue winning majors.   Again, he would have won last weekend if he had just rolled his putts a little better.  He's obviously not FAR from major-championship caliber play, even if we accept his performance at Augusta as evidence that he's not quite there.

I agree it's entirely possible Tiger is going to confront some difficult emotions as he makes his final assault on Jack's record.   This is something I had never thought about before, but it only makes sense if you think about it.  If, indeed, the majors start becoming more difficult for him to win, it's easy to see how frustrating speific losses -- especially close losses -- might become.  

There's also the fact, as you point out, that this has been his life's mission for as long as he can remember.   Part of him might be starting to look beyond the hunt for 19 and thinking, "And then what?"   Part of him may be yearning to get to 19 ASAP while another part doesn't want the chase to ever end!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Phil.  I&#8217;ve been critical of some of your anti-Tiger posts, but this strikes me as an admirably fair treatment of the subject. </p>
<p>This is just speculation, of course, but I would guess Tiger was upset at the outcome because (a) he was forced to sit out the better part of a year, nursing his knee, waiting for Masters week to arrive; and (b) he drove back down Magnolia Lane knowing he COULD have won the damn thing.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any great mystery to why he was so mad.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit skeptical of the claims that Tiger&#8217;s swing (or his knee) is too messed up for him to continue winning majors.   Again, he would have won last weekend if he had just rolled his putts a little better.  He&#8217;s obviously not FAR from major-championship caliber play, even if we accept his performance at Augusta as evidence that he&#8217;s not quite there.</p>
<p>I agree it&#8217;s entirely possible Tiger is going to confront some difficult emotions as he makes his final assault on Jack&#8217;s record.   This is something I had never thought about before, but it only makes sense if you think about it.  If, indeed, the majors start becoming more difficult for him to win, it&#8217;s easy to see how frustrating speific losses &#8212; especially close losses &#8212; might become.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the fact, as you point out, that this has been his life&#8217;s mission for as long as he can remember.   Part of him might be starting to look beyond the hunt for 19 and thinking, &#8220;And then what?&#8221;   Part of him may be yearning to get to 19 ASAP while another part doesn&#8217;t want the chase to ever end!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike
With your description of the pressure you can see a pyramid with levels. Tiger has not yet experienced the highest levels of closing in, one away from tying the record, then breaking it. Imagine playing 72 holes with that hanging over your head. 
Excellent points on his family life. His mom is moving to Florida to be actively involved in raising the kids. I wonder how Elin, the mystery woman, feels about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike<br />
With your description of the pressure you can see a pyramid with levels. Tiger has not yet experienced the highest levels of closing in, one away from tying the record, then breaking it. Imagine playing 72 holes with that hanging over your head.<br />
Excellent points on his family life. His mom is moving to Florida to be actively involved in raising the kids. I wonder how Elin, the mystery woman, feels about that.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. -- the other point I meant to make about Tiger's family life is that even when everything's great, fathers can get frustrated -- and even cranky -- about the demands on their time. Tiger no doubt holds up his own father as a role model. But remember, Tiger was the *total focus* of Earl's life. Tiger, as some level, probably wants to provide that same level of attention to *his* kids, but he can't do that *and* pursue the Quest, at least not with the passion and intensity and focus he's become accustomed to giving it. It can't be done. And Tiger may be starting to realize that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. &#8212; the other point I meant to make about Tiger&#8217;s family life is that even when everything&#8217;s great, fathers can get frustrated &#8212; and even cranky &#8212; about the demands on their time. Tiger no doubt holds up his own father as a role model. But remember, Tiger was the *total focus* of Earl&#8217;s life. Tiger, as some level, probably wants to provide that same level of attention to *his* kids, but he can&#8217;t do that *and* pursue the Quest, at least not with the passion and intensity and focus he&#8217;s become accustomed to giving it. It can&#8217;t be done. And Tiger may be starting to realize that.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think Phil's point is that he's reacting out of proportion to not playing well. As you suggest, everyone gets mad when they don't play well. But as Phil says, Tiger has played worse without being quite so belligerent as he apparently displayed at the Masters.

I've been wondering for a while now if the grind of "the Quest" might be getting to him -- or might soon start. It seems to me that every golfer has a "pressure threshold," where the pressure really starts to affect their game when it hasn't really before. For some guys it might simply be making the jump to the Tour from college. For a lot of guys it's leading down the stretch toward their first victory. For others, that first "regular" victory may be no big deal, but when it's that first major, they wilt.

Tiger thus far has been more or less immune, which is a big part of the reason he's won so much. And I think that may well be because he's really only had one goal his whole life, to beat Jack. And now that that goal is within sight (remember, this is the first season where he could theoretically have caught Jack's major total) it's starting to get to him, as Phil suggests.

I also wonder about the family life. Not that it's not great, it probably is. But it's another "layer" of things he has to think about that isn't golf. For some guys, a new, happy family life probably loosens them up, helps them relax and play better. But that's not how Tiger rolls. He's a "focus" player, not a "relax and enjoy yourself" player.

In the love/hate Tiger debate, I've always been pretty pro-Tiger. I love watching excellence, and even dominance, in sports. But I also like interesting things to happen. And I think it will make the whole Tiger Woods story a lot more interesting if it takes him, say, 5-8 years (instead of 5-8 tournaments!) to pass Jack. I still want him to do it, but I want it to be hard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think Phil&#8217;s point is that he&#8217;s reacting out of proportion to not playing well. As you suggest, everyone gets mad when they don&#8217;t play well. But as Phil says, Tiger has played worse without being quite so belligerent as he apparently displayed at the Masters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering for a while now if the grind of &#8220;the Quest&#8221; might be getting to him &#8212; or might soon start. It seems to me that every golfer has a &#8220;pressure threshold,&#8221; where the pressure really starts to affect their game when it hasn&#8217;t really before. For some guys it might simply be making the jump to the Tour from college. For a lot of guys it&#8217;s leading down the stretch toward their first victory. For others, that first &#8220;regular&#8221; victory may be no big deal, but when it&#8217;s that first major, they wilt.</p>
<p>Tiger thus far has been more or less immune, which is a big part of the reason he&#8217;s won so much. And I think that may well be because he&#8217;s really only had one goal his whole life, to beat Jack. And now that that goal is within sight (remember, this is the first season where he could theoretically have caught Jack&#8217;s major total) it&#8217;s starting to get to him, as Phil suggests.</p>
<p>I also wonder about the family life. Not that it&#8217;s not great, it probably is. But it&#8217;s another &#8220;layer&#8221; of things he has to think about that isn&#8217;t golf. For some guys, a new, happy family life probably loosens them up, helps them relax and play better. But that&#8217;s not how Tiger rolls. He&#8217;s a &#8220;focus&#8221; player, not a &#8220;relax and enjoy yourself&#8221; player.</p>
<p>In the love/hate Tiger debate, I&#8217;ve always been pretty pro-Tiger. I love watching excellence, and even dominance, in sports. But I also like interesting things to happen. And I think it will make the whole Tiger Woods story a lot more interesting if it takes him, say, 5-8 years (instead of 5-8 tournaments!) to pass Jack. I still want him to do it, but I want it to be hard!</p>
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		<title>By: rexfordbuzzsaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was inconsistent*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was inconsistent*</p>
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		<title>By: rexfordbuzzsaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiger is probably pissed because he wasn't inconsistent as hell with his ball striking,  ran a ton of putts by the lip and still finished in the top-10.  Playing like that in contention, would probably piss me off too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiger is probably pissed because he wasn&#8217;t inconsistent as hell with his ball striking,  ran a ton of putts by the lip and still finished in the top-10.  Playing like that in contention, would probably piss me off too.</p>
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